ESL Teaching in Changchun

[Matt Hammond]

University teaching position

Changchun

Visa provided

Apartment provided

20 hours teaching a week

12k - 15k salary (depending on experience and teaching skills)

Summer and winter vacation paid

4 days paid sick leave

Summer vacation trip with students to Beijing, Shanghai or Shenzhen paid

At least 1 year teaching previous teaching experience needed

We have a partnership with is University so our company will also throw in a 1 week trip to Shenzhen during the winter vacation, hotel and tour guide provided by us.

Thanks

[Chris Knight]

PM me. Which uni is this? Universities in Changchun don't pay anywhere NEAR the amount you are stating.

[Matt Hammond]

Actually they do, most uni's or schools only want to offer the basic salary because they think foreign teachers are new in China or have no idea about salary or hours. If you talk directly to most uni heads and not to so called foreign teacher managers or managers of foreign departments they do offer good salary and other contract details.

[Richard Paul Roman]

Hi Matt. Which university is this?

[Chris Knight]

Tell me one university in Changchun which pays between 12K and 15K per month, Matt. I've been in Changchun for 6 of my 10 years in China. I have a Jilin Province Foreign expert Award, and other awards coming out my a**, but one uni I applied at only offered me 4800/month. They don't pay that because they think you're new, or have no idea. They pay that because they are cheap. They want the talent, but they aren't willing to pay for it.

[Matt Hammond]

Chris that's awesome, foreign experts award and also other awards, you must be a very accomplished expert. I also have 3 of those and my colleague has 6. Its cool collecting the plaque with your name on it, the small model car or train, the wine, meeting Mr Ma and other officials. We all have awards, that's a good accomplishment. You being offered 4800 a month from a uni is obviously not good. I have a friend there now teaching Japanese in university at 11k a month. He has been there for 4 years and has only taught 10 - 15 classes a week. Times are changing now even language schools in Changchun which used to pay less salary and make you work long hours are also changing to standard 100 hours teaching a month and higher salaries.

[Chris Knight]

You're skirting the question, Matt. Two of us, now, have asked you which university. I even told you to PM me if you don't want to give that info out publicly.  I'm currently looking, myself, but ... I'm calling you out on this one. No university, unless it's a private one, is going to shell out that kind of money for an English teacher.

Yes, I'm being sceptical. I have every right to be. I've seen too many BS artists come and go in this town. I'm not calling you one, but so far all you've done is talk the talk. Can you walk the walk?

[Matt Hammond]

Why would i give any job or company info directly to people??? you have been there this long and you still don't know how job placement agencies work??. Firstly people can of course be skeptical from whatever experiences they have had there already and that's fine. Secondly as i receive jobs i post them up, i don't push anyone to apply or not, people have their own opinions.

As for 'so far all you've done is talk the talk' of course because i'm the one posting the jobs, your question 'can i walk the walk?' i don't really have anything to prove, but you can ask the teachers we have already found jobs for in Changchun which will arrive in January.

[Chris Knight]

Au contraire!!  Most of us DO know how Job Placement Agencies (aka Head-hunters) work. That's why we stay away from them.

[Artie Burns]

I have to share Chris' skepticism here. A new job poster shows up with a bunch of teaching jobs that pay approximately double the market rate for Changchun and as much as or more than jobs in lots of Tier 1 cities. I have a friend who teaches at the most prestigious university in China, who needed a master's degree for the job, and doesn't make this much per month. The only way I could believe these numbers is if the uni. is hiring foreign professors with PHD degrees in specific subjects. But for esl.... sounds too good to be true. I would encourage any applicants to proceed with caution and make sure everything is legal and legitimate. Most recruiters/headhunters will actually pay LESS than the market rate because they take a cut. All this being said, I have no evidence that Matt Hammond is not a legitimate poster advertising good jobs. I would just urge people to be careful in the situation. And if I'm wrong, sorry Matt. Time will tell. 

[Matt Hammond]

Noted!!, of course for any job add people should be careful, we don't actually take any cut from salaries or other things we only take our share of what schools or companies provide us for finding them teachers. Again as for applying, if people want to apply the sure, we'll set up the interview. If they don't then it really doesn't bother me, i'm just posting what i receive for Changchun and other cities and yes time will tell. Cheers for the comment.

[Artie Burns]

Thank you for the reply Matt. Does your company have a website or any contact information from teachers who have been placed successfully? And is the company name "Teach in China?".  I think there will be a lot less skepticism from myself (and others who have seen your posts but haven't written a reply) when someone who is well-known in the Changchun expat community is successfully placed in a job paying the salary you mention or when these 17 teachers arrive in January and become known to all. I look forward to seeing how everything plays out.

[Chris Knight]

I, too would be interested in talking to teachers who are already here, in Changchun, through Mr. Hammond. I am suspicious, especially since the minimum is a Bachelor's degree + a recognized TESOL / TOEFL / TEFL certificate (such as Cambridge or TCL) + minimum one year's experience ... and no university in Dongbei is going to pay that much for the minimum requirement, since there is a plethora of experienced teachers already here.

My Spidey-sense is tingling ...